@ Oubliette:
All of us non-DF'd "apostates" should show up and partake just to drive them crazy!
Nah, just kidding!
I'm not kidding, we should attend and leave the plates and wine glasses empty for the rest of the audience to pass along.
i don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.
even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.
a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.
@ Oubliette:
All of us non-DF'd "apostates" should show up and partake just to drive them crazy!
Nah, just kidding!
I'm not kidding, we should attend and leave the plates and wine glasses empty for the rest of the audience to pass along.
i'm sure you've seen these, just in case you haven't.
https://instagram.com/p/zorhhuhis5/.
https://instagram.com/p/zba9rlhivl/.
as i sat through another mind numbing sermon this morning i could not help thinking that the speaker was a total clown.. lime green suit, white shirt, yellow tie, blue socks barely higher than his ankle, brown shoes, and an orange cast.
all that was missing was a big red rubber nose!
and of course everyone remarked what a wonderful talk he gave.
hey people, .
i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.
i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.
rathernotsay:
"It has been suggested to me that I request a meeting with them and explain that our children are being raised with an open mind, as I still celebrate their birthdays and my family still celebrate xmas."
Don't mean to be argumentative but... those elders have a completely different mindset than you. They would consider the idea of an open mind to be horrid. Even if they don't show it they simply won't have any respect for you. Whoever suggested such a meeting with the elders must either be incredibly naïve or down right deceptive.
hey people, .
i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.
i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.
rathernotsay:
"When I said that I would come along I made it explicitly clear that I am not going to start studying or believing."
But she'll try anyways and that could be a source of friction. You put your foot in the door and she'll want to drage you in no matter what you say.
"She just laughed and said she knows that and wont even bother trying to convince me otherwise."
If she really believes that then what's her motivation in asking you to come?
"It really is more about me learning who these people are particularly the elders."
As others on this forum can tell you it is not until you're baptized that you really get to know the Witnesses, elders included.
hey people, .
i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.
i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.
Don't. Do. It.
By taking the first step inside your wife will keep egging you on to go further. Then, should you choose to bail out, your relationship with her will worsen. As for working things out with your wife remember, it is she who owes you not you who owes her.
Don't remain ignorant of the religion. Quite the contrary, learn as much of it as you can stomach then you'll have a solid foundation upon which you can have a meaningful discussion with her. I suggest that you read Crisis of Conscience to get a good overview of what these people are really like. Also, keep reading this site.
i don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.
even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.
a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.
in the city of hefei, in anhui province, china, there is a park planted with 20,000 cherry trees (of 40 different varieties.
(cherry blossoms are culturally significant in east asia and popular).
its not quite blossom time yet, but to get an early start to spring these beautiful girls and some artists introduced another form of cherry blossom displays.
fulltimestudent: "So here's a question for you, why are you scared of China?"
I never said I was afraid of China. In any case, the higher Carbon Dioxide emissions from China and elsewhere spread throughout the Earth. But that's off topic. So tell me, were those Chinese beauties wearing edible paint?
in the city of hefei, in anhui province, china, there is a park planted with 20,000 cherry trees (of 40 different varieties.
(cherry blossoms are culturally significant in east asia and popular).
its not quite blossom time yet, but to get an early start to spring these beautiful girls and some artists introduced another form of cherry blossom displays.
This is more realistic:
..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.